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What happened to intellectual honesty?

Discussion in 'EverQuest II General Discussion' started by Benito, Jan 25, 2020.

  1. Benito

    Benito Banned

    Do I believe in unfettered capitalism? No. Do I believe in the people's right to choose? Yes.

    The second line is disingenuous and you know it.

    You hold yourself as the paragon of objectivity and free speech especially vis-à-vis EQ OF. If you can't handle my speech (which has been fairly tame), you've deluded yourself.
     
  2. Tekka

    Tekka That Village Idiot



     
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  3. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    I'm pretty sure I've complained that players -- CUSTOMERS -- should be allowed to point out all their bugs, issues, and feedback for a product and why they feel that way on the official forums and in the official Discord where 99% of actual updates about game bugs and issues are posted. Yet since before I even started playing EQ2, players have had their access to these venues, particularly the Discord chat WHICH I STARTED, fiercely curtailed on a regular basis.

    I don't recall holding up EQ2Wire Forums as a paragon of whatever pops into anyone's brain, so much as a place to critique and document all the aspects of EQ2, good or bad, with minimal filtering. But do keep the torrent of philosophical drivel coming -- it's good for page hits.
     
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  4. Benito

    Benito Banned

    You're welcome.
     
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  5. Adoninilol

    Adoninilol Member

    Don't worry buddy, i'll never put you on ignore.

    We can chat about cats
     
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  6. Meneltel

    Meneltel Active Member

    I like cats too!





    Want to exchange recipes? *giggles*
     
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  7. Castegyre

    Castegyre Active Member

    If people refuse to criticize, or allow criticism of, The Thing they claim to care about what they are showing is that they don't really care about the wellbeing of The Thing at all. It's not The Thing they're actually concerned with. The Thing is simply the object they are idolizing as a vehicle for obsessing over themselves and their own feelings. If you want The Thing to be healthy and grow you must be honest and willing to assess the entirety of The Thing, good and bad. Otherwise you can never address the flaws or properly appreciate the strengths.










    (Seems like I've seen this maybe a couple of dozen times somewhere before. Must have stuck in my head...)
     
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  8. Meneltel

    Meneltel Active Member

    Similar to "if you don't make mistakes, and learn from them, you will never improve."
     
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  9. Fuli

    Fuli Well-Known Member

    Here we have yet another example of Bubble Gnomes and intellectual honesty.

    New guy asking about game population, and here comes the Bubble Gnome welcome wagon, "Everything's awesome, population is fine, enjoy!".

    Of course, a couple of honest folks then feel compelled to describe an honest picture, provoking Bubble Gnome ire, and rehashed arguments that clearly reveal a distorted view and not reality.

    It's exactly the same thing Longdale does. The inability to comprehend that misleading people causes harm to both customers and the game is astounding.

    Guys tell me | EverQuest 2 Forums
     
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  10. Benito

    Benito Banned

    Can you all talk straight to people? Call them "Bubble Gnome" to their face.

    I think the most disgusting aspect of these forums are the "talking behind people's back" attitude. I'd hate to be your coworker.
     
  11. Fuli

    Fuli Well-Known Member

    1. Yep.
    2. Nothing to worry about. 100% confident your resume wouldn't make it past my screening software.

    Bye.
     
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  12. Tekka

    Tekka That Village Idiot


    It's a point of pride that I don't say things when someone isn't around that I wouldn't say, and have said, directly to their face.

    I have, in fact, called BG's - both here and on the OF (before the jackboot of moderation came down)- Bubble Gnomes right to their e-faces. Just like I have done with you.

    On the flip side, one member of my Bubble Gnome Fan Club back in the day (which you were at least peripherally a part of) bragged on the OF about how they all got together to talk about me on Discord, as if I'd think it was anything but pathetic they didn't have something better to do with their time.

    So take your hypocritical 'disgust' and stuff it up your <edited for content>.

    And you STILL haven't addressed the DIRECT question and points of Mermut and Feldon amidst all you're whinging hostility and attempts at self martyrdom.
     
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  13. Benito

    Benito Banned

    Wow. I didn’t address you but you quickly responded.

    False. First, in December 2018, you went off behind my back. (I was not appraised of you talking about me on another forum). Second, about a week ago, I was not quoted for any criticism (talked around me).

    But keep telling yourself that. Talking behind people’s back is a very sad vice.
     
  14. Castegyre

    Castegyre Active Member

    I've gotten into so much trouble over the years telling people exactly what I think of them right into their face holes.:oops:
     
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  15. Tekka

    Tekka That Village Idiot


    You didn't address anyone specific, you retard.

    Also, you lack reading comprehension. I have not said a SINGLE THING 'behind your back' that I haven't subsequently said to your face - or am absolutely willing to, you <edited for content> moron. And not quoting your post isn't talking behind your back you weirdo stalker (how much of my post history have combed through, you pathetic loser).

    You're projection is far stronger than your logic or reason.

    And with that, I say good day.


    (There, I waited until the final post to get all the name calling out of my system. I still didn't swear, gimme cookie)
     
  16. Mermut

    Mermut Well-Known Member

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  17. Tekka

    Tekka That Village Idiot


    I know, I shouldn't tease them, but I'm done now. It's all played out exactly as anticipated.

    And to be clear, I'm not bothered, angry or particularly provoked. Poking the Bubble Gnomes with sticks - especially the particularly virulent trolls - is just a past time that shouldn't be indulged too often, like eating a lot of sugar.
     
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  18. Benito

    Benito Banned

    That's a good rule of thumb (if you don't want the heat). You should have valid suggestions or criticism (people will listen within reason) but if you have nothing good to say - better to keep your pie hole shut (and not go behind their backs - PERIOD).

    Edit: For online forums, you have less of an excuse (anonymity) not to talk to people straight.
     
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  19. Meneltel

    Meneltel Active Member

    Ive had people on the OF talk about how they would mock me and my dps Sk, but I had fun doing that and was encouraged by my guild and friends. Just more friends left, guild grouping stopped and I hated the expansions and DBG's expansion tactics. So I left. Seriously doubt ill be back. Poor Meneltel. Rotting away but not dead.
     
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  20. Charlice

    Charlice Active Member

    I have three cats, they're best baked not fried.

    I'm starting to think Benito is Dixa. Anyone else remember him?
    Anywho, I'm just glad I put him on ignore, now I can just imagine what he's saying without being infuriated.
     
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