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Death of a Game: The EverQuest Franchise

Discussion in 'EverQuest II General Discussion' started by Sweatypie, Aug 21, 2018.

  1. Sweatypie

    Sweatypie Member

    Not mine but was a decent walkthrough:

     
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  2. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    Needed more facts and examples of what points he was making but he's a good speaker to listen to at least. :)
     
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  3. Errrorr

    Errrorr Active Member

    It's not dead, there is a potion on marketplace to revive it I think
     
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  4. Fuli

    Fuli Active Member

    Seems a little heavy on opinion asserted or implied as fact.

    I'm also inclined not to agree with the thesis that the franchise's decline was because it moved away from eq1 design philosophies.
     
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  5. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    The timesinks in EQ are just not realistic for a modern game. Not with cell phones and Netflix.
     
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  6. Cindrax

    Cindrax Member

    Well, he got the part where EQ2 was rushed out without proper testing right. This have haunted the game ever since release and gotten worse with each expansion. The part that EQ2 play is clunky and laggy while WoW is smooth as hell he also got right.

    The thing he missed, imho, in the video is the decision to make the game F2P and the cash shop that slowly but steady turned it into p2w. For short term they probably racked in quite a profit the first months since for each cancelled sub it took ONE person to buy a mount from the shop to make profit. So they pumped out stuff on the shop while bugs, balance etc never got fixed... Guilds folded left and right during this period... and the exodus of players have continued to this day.
     
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  7. Zhaanish

    Zhaanish Member

    I had totally forgotten about Meridian 59 until they mentioned it. :)

    I agree with what was said earlier - I don't think the issue was a "over-simplification" of EQ1. I played EQ1 from the beginning and started EQ2 at it's beginning but then stopped because it was so buggy and played WoW about 1 year before going back to EQ2 after they worked some bugs out. I would argue the buggy release was a much bigger problem because if I did not have a history with the franchise (EQ1) or if WoW had really grabbed me like it did for so many, I probably never would have come back to give it a second chance.

    And then I feel like all of us are painfully aware of the more recent sinking ship and all of the details that have caused the current sad state.
     
  8. Endymion

    Endymion Active Member

    A lot of people are probably watching Netflix while doing their mindless MMO grinding :p (EQ2 or otherwise).
     
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  9. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    And porn, if accidental open mics on Teamspeak are any indication. Although I can't rule out a frustrated raid leader encouraging us all to "slap that ass" on the 7th wipe.
     
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  10. Meneltel

    Meneltel Active Member

    Ran with a casual family guild that raided very well and one of the GLs was joked about running porn on his second computer while we did raids, as he would be encouraged to look up strats by putting his porn on hold while using his second computer for that! I don't really know if its true but about 20 or more guildies lived within an hour or so of each other so they often got together IRL, so its possible... or just an inside joke. Either way, I miss them all!
     
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