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Crafting is well and truely ****** in BoL

Discussion in 'EverQuest II General Discussion' started by Mermut, Dec 24, 2019.

  1. Sweatypie

    Sweatypie Active Member

    Why do you continue to paint yourself as a victim? Like its in every single post of yours? Do you feel that lonely and paranoid and think everyone is out to get you? Its actually frightning and my advice of seeking counseling still stands.
     
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  2. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    The delusions of grandeur are really quite something. His credentials are "having an opinion about a video game".
     
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  3. Castegyre

    Castegyre Active Member

    If you go in to something expecting to be the oppressed and victimized underdog you can excuse unfavorable reactions from people as vindication of your beliefs. Of course you're right, you knew these people would attack you and they did. That proves it.

    There are some obvious real world examples that could be named, but will not and should not be, to avoid setting the forum on fire.
     
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  4. Benito

    Benito Banned

    Ya'll can't take a joke. The real point of my post was "perspective setting": everyone is a bubble gnome in one way or another.

    Edit: You all say "bubble gnome" is a benign expression but everyone's reaction here says otherwise. LOL.
     
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  5. Meneltel

    Meneltel Active Member

    A joke should be more obvious as in making us laugh. Your actions remind me of a kid saying something mean and spiteful and then adding quickly "I was just kidding".
     
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  6. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    Just what I want to read here. CNN "both sidesism".

    A bubble gnome is someone who ignores evidence which is counter to or may in some way threaten their viewpoint. Most of us are willing and in fact eager to change our viewpoint when presented with facts and evidence. If you ever find some, we'll be happy to read them.
     
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  7. Fuli

    Fuli Well-Known Member

    Welp, I was hoping that dumb little epic I shared awhile back would clarify bubblegnomedom, but apparently it hasn't so I'll do that now:

    There is nothing wrong with people liking the game as it is today, voicing that sentiment on the forums, and defending the game (warts and all). There is also nothing wrong with people who don't like the game as it is today and voice that sentiment on the forums, either.

    I'll often chime in with sentiment, opinion, and speculation but I don't demand people agree with me.

    The issue I have with Bubble Gnomes is that they respond to negative sentiment like it threatens them personally, and in so doing, argue to INVALIDATE or SUPPRESS the opinions and feelings of others, often by drowning the forums with uninformed, dishonest, or otherwise misleading information. To the Bubble Gnome, there are no warts, everything is fine, and the problem rests with anyone who voices any sort of criticism of eq2 or the staff.

    This is not healthy for a game that is struggling, nor is it fair to the folks who have every right to comment on quality.
     
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  8. Feldon

    Feldon Administrator Staff Member

    Bubble Gnomes believe that:
    • they are in the overwhelming majority in believing the game is fantastic with no or minimal issues
    • nobody reads the forums since it's just a bunch of people whining, while the "real fans" are busy playing
    • any negative comments by players on the forums will somehow damage the game and should be suppressed
    The problem with holding these 3 conflicting viewpoints seems to be lost on them.
     
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  9. Benito

    Benito Banned

    And you don't see the tribalism (creating cognitive biases) here?

    It's like I am a fan of a rival sports team where "valid/truthful" criticism of your sports team elicit ridicule. For instance, upon a review of Super Bowl commentary, many pundits say San Francisco 49ers (Kyle Shanahan or Jimmy G) blew it against Kansas City Chief but some 49er fans still argue that the refs cost them the game.

    I may bring up a valid or uncontested points (i.e. loot box regulation for minors) but still receive crap because I am "not part of Feldon's team" or "not part of the EQ2Wire tribe."
     
  10. Benito

    Benito Banned

    There's also those who are the arbiters of truth (with their tribe) who pre-empt the moral high ground:

    • believed that EQ2 would sunset or Daybreak shut down within the last few years.
    • believes that there's a sinister conspiracy to maliciously sell off Daybreak IP or swindle players out of cash.
    • evangelizes to seek converts to their point of view/tribe/bandwagon (support their opinion or theory and, perhaps, with sufficient support, it becomes gospel).
     
  11. Castegyre

    Castegyre Active Member

    It does.

    That's the problem.
     
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  12. Fuli

    Fuli Well-Known Member

    And thus, Tekka's call to know what cognitive dissonance actually means..........cause it explains Bubble Gnomes behavior to a "t".
     
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  13. Zynt

    Zynt Active Member

     
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  14. Benito

    Benito Banned

    What is with you and these Charlie Brown posts?

    Tribalism: case in point right here.
     
  15. Zynt

    Zynt Active Member

    Why did you assume that was directed at you?

    I mean, it was, but I didn't specify that.
     
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  16. Benito

    Benito Banned

    Because you used that Charlie Brown motif against me earlier in this thread. I am highlighting what a weird choice it is.

    It's bizarre to say the least. Very weird idiosyncrasy/quirk to speak through Charlie Brown when you feel the need to push back.
     
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  17. Castegyre

    Castegyre Active Member

    Don't confuse you annoying someone and them responding to that annoyance with someone not liking you because they perceive you as being on another team. It speaks more to your bias than to theirs.
     
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  18. Benito

    Benito Banned

    Honestly never spoke to Zynt directly at any point other than the minor point about stoicism on the EQ2Wire forums. (Run a search yourself).

    It actually strengthens my point about tribalism now.
     
  19. Tekka

    Tekka That Village Idiot


    Human beings, as a species, have a strong tendency toward tribalism. All of them. It's how we survived to progress from cave dwelling primates who's most potent threats were starvation and the weather to a species able to alter our environment to suit us.

    Tribalism is not inherently bad. Not all humans feel as strongly influenced toward the inclination as others. And of the humans that do feel a strong influence, not all choose to let it shape their interactions - face to face, online or otherwise.

    Every single person is biased. Every single person is bigoted.

    Neither of those things are inherently bad. See above about survival of the species.

    What sets a Bubble Gnome apart is that they wallow in those aspects - which you have deemed negative.

    Lets take your activity on the Wire. You came here with a distinct, aggressive bias (us vs them) against the site and those who posted here. That bias, which you gleefully embraced, lead you to post in a tone and manner that was (and is this last round as well) aggressive and bigoted - no matter who responded or you responded to. The fact you put it behind thin veneer of 'intellectual discussion' doesn't make it any less biased or bigoted, or your actions any less those of a troll.

    This response is not meant in the manner I suspect it will be taken. It's for illustrative purposes.

    I've maintained from the start that the Bubble Gnomes I choose to respond to (and I am selective) are among the most useful tools.

    P.S. Stop abusing and misusing words.
     
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  20. Castegyre

    Castegyre Active Member

    Of course it does. That is what you've been looking for confirmation of this entire time. Your post history is littered with examples of your personal bias and persecution searching for validation, which you will find whether it's there or not.

    Good hunting.
     
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